Brian and I saw The Internship this week starring Vince Vaughn and Luke Wilson. It's their first movie together since Wedding Crashers. We also decided to cover a home movie this week because we both saw Upstream Color by Shane Carruth. That led to a talk about sci-fi, Duncan Jones, and a lot more.
The heavy handed Google infomercial
Vince Vaughn and Luke Wilson with rhythm
Luke Wilson plays Luke Wilson and Vince Vaughn plays Vince Vaughn
Michael Cera playing Michael Cera forever
Modern Family and how I gave it up
The Internship is forgettable and fleeting as opposed to a repeat watch
Melissa McCarthy and how she’s in the Kevin James role
Kevin James and Patton Oswalt’s sitcom
The PG-13 vs. the Rated R movie
Upstream Color and how comfortable it was
Comparing it to Terence Malick
The tourguide character
Shane Carruth’s first movie Primer
Brian and I decided to talk a little basketball today after the movie podcast. But, I'm posting the basketball podcast first, so you can pretend like it happened before the movie podcast... which will be posted later.
Breaking down the Heat game 2 vs. the Spurs
LeBron has fulfilled his potential as a player and he’s almost unhateable
LeBron wasn’t putting in effort during Cavs games
Dwyane Wade loves making excuses
LeBron James and his stage awareness back in the day
Dwyane Wade has the same game he had in 2006
Kind of feeling sorry for Chris Bosh
Bosh’s hysterical nature on the court
You can’t really have an opinion of the Spurs
“You don’t like basketball if you don’t like the way the Spurs play.”
Liking the NBA for stars
The fascination in the Heat when they lose
Brian would love to see the Heat get swept
Carmina Burana and O Fortuna
There's not much conclusive news about Chris Perez right now, and that took some of the wind out of our sails. Still, we had a conversation about a lot of the "what ifs" before getting into the real meat of the Indians' troubles right now as they work through the hardest part of their schedule so far this season.
The historical perspective and how the world will look at Marijuana
Chris Perez and the marijuana debate
The 10,000 foot view and whether or not this is a big deal
This isn't shocking and the rich and famous get caught up in this
The national drunk hotline and Jim Rome's celebrity drunk bus
The Bosch case in Miami and the looming penalties
Jamey Carroll and the lack of a backup shortstop
The benefit to the Indians if Jhonny Peralta gets suspended
Asdrubal Cabrera and just how long he might be out
Mike Aviles and the general state of umpiring in MLB
Indians benefit from the calls too. Not a homer take.
The umpires that shouldn’t be working anymore. CB Bucknor, Tony Randazzo, and Angel Hernandez
J.C. Romero as the left-handed option in the bullpen
Carlos Carrasco and how he’ll fit into the bullpen
Cody Allen and how much George Carlin would hate his name
Jose Lindor and how little you want to start the clock on him
The wild card games and how they hamper them
I tracked down Dennis Manoloff to talk about some injuries. That was Asdrubal Cabrera, Trent Richardson and the 2013 NBA draft. That morphed into a conversation at the end about LeBron James, of course.
Asdrubal Cabrera’s injury and just how bad it is
Cabrera’s toughness and wanting to power through the injury
Is the sense of panic lessened by Terry Francona?
Inconsistent offense, a scuffling bullpen and a rotation without an ace
This is a different club than the ones of the last two years
Can the Tribe hang with the Tigers for the whole season?
Baseball isn’t a plug and play statistics league
The rainout and whether or not everyone handled it well
The philosophy of MLB to want to play games at that hour of the morning
Trent Richardson and how much of a concern it is
Richardson has never been healthy as a Cleveland Browns player
Will Norv Turner mitigate the risks of Trent Richardson with utilization of other backs?
Should the Cavs trade the pick or which players are exciting out there?
Ben McLemore and how exciting he is to watch
Being attractive to LeBron James
Setting yourself up with cap space to be a player in 2014 regardless
Went a little long this week, so you'll want to split it up if that's your deal. Apologies, but I didn't feel like cutting it up. All killer no filler, just the same.
Roy Hibbert saying “No Homo” and getting fined
Dave Zirin at The Nation and his thoughts on Hibbert
Hate speech and whether or not Hibbert hates anyone
The news covering the word without telling us what people said
Am I allowed to use the word “pansy?”
I’m back in the NBA and watching the playoffs
Doc Gooden getting squeezed and not being able to scream until I’m hoarse
The Indians get rained out and hell comes down on them
The Indians apologizing for the rain out
Stand-up comedians and whether they ever have to apologize
Tracy Morgan is crazy and anyone who gets crazy deserves it
Free speech and the first amendment and whether or not people should stand up
Don Draper hitting a hash hookah and why we can’t be more consistent
Opie and Anthony’s stance on apologies and how they never mean them
Parsing the difference between Camel advertising to kids and SNL making jokes
Jim Brown and whether or not he needs to be around anymore
Ozzie Awesome on the Muni Stadium scoreboard
LeBron opting out and joining the team
Cleveland losing ownership of its rockstars, Scott Weiland, Trent Reznor
Sports is the last nationally identifying factor for Cleveland
Gordon Gee and whether he’s allowed to tell a joke or not
Gee is a symptom, not a disease
We normally do spoiler free podcasting at least for a few minutes, but there's just no point. You shouldn't see this film. You should just listen to us talk about the idiocy. And even then don't go see it. It's not even bad enough to be good. Here's a rundown of what we discussed.
It's been far too long since I did a Joncast. Always nice to catch up with him. Enjoy as we ride the conversation for nearly an hour covering a wide range of topics.
Vacations and how we don’t take nearly enough of them
The European method of taking a month off in August
Our pursuit of happiness and self-inflicting wounds culturally
Defining needs vs. wants and how we’ve become spoiled
Swisher and the bro dude stare at the mound
Tom Hamilton and what he said
Rob Neyer and comparing baseball to a soap opera
Derek Lowe and Dusty Baker
Liking Craig Calcaterra’s blog and writing
The gotcha culture and why people shouldn’t have an opinion on anything
Getting ingrained in a culture and having it ruin the things you love
Did we create obsessive compulsive disorder or at least augment its existence?
Is sports talk radio a guilty pleasure?
Have you ever injured your voice screaming at talk radio?
Jim Rome and forcing the audience to eat their own
Hiram and why long form is so much better for so many people
The Indians and how you could see this coming on the schedule
Walk-offs and overtime NHL goals are the best endings in sports
Playoff NBA officiating is worse than regular season NBA officiating
NHL playoff officiating is better than regular season NHL officiating
The nebulous nature of blocking and charging calls
USMNT coming to Cleveland
St. Louis and how it is a big soccer town
Kirk wrote a fantastic article exploring the trade market available to the Cavs and I wanted to go over it and push him further on it since it has been out there a few days. Of course we also talked about some other stuff like Dwight Howard.
I wasn't looking forward to Furious 6 and Brian really was. How do we feel about the flick now that we've both seen it finally? By the way, this is by far the most I've laughed into the mic on my own podcast.
Scott and I found time on this holiday Monday morning to carry on as normal with our podcast. Here's the rest of what we discussed...
Memorial Day and working on it
Chris Perez and his apparent shoulder injury
Has anyone been hired as coach or manager to give faith like Terry Francona
Randy Lerner and his hire of Mike Holmgren
Good hires and just because things don’t work out don’t make them a bad idea
Browns public relations and media relations
Granular results and outcomes versus trends
Tom Heckert and his performance
Pat Shurmur and Howie Roseman and whether Chip Kelly wanted Shurmur
Valley View and the Fast and Furious 6
Stopping feeling guilty about the pleasures
Craig likes Roxette and the Pretty Woman soundtrack
Bubblegum pop artists and the cycles with Justin Bieber and New Kids on the Block
The Monkees and their pop hits
Zach Lowe and the criticism of Dan Gilbert’s entourage in Grantland
Being cool by not caring what other people think
Scott Sargent is not cool :-)
The Comic Sans letter and making fun of Dan Gilbert for it
Scott joined me for about 20 minutes to discuss the Cavaliers goings on since winning the NBA draft lottery last night. Here's what we talked about more specifically.
The turmoil of having the first overall pick in the draft
What do you think about the trade down cuteness?
Due diligence and just how little fans and media can do
Nerlens Noel and how good he needs to be in order for Grant to justify taking him
Do you trust Chris Grant to avoid the tendency to chase height and need?
Kevin Love and how unavailable he really is
James Harden wasn’t available until he was either
Lamarcus Aldridge and his availability
Marc Gasol and his ability to be moved
Chris Bosh’s name and how nobody has talked about it yet
Free agency pool and who you would look at in free agency
Zach Lowe’s critique of the NBA lottery event and the Cavs
Scott and I spent a lot of time talking Tribe today. We also touched on Brian Hoyer and whether we should be talking about it or not and also the Chuck Klosterman controversy with the Cleveland Browns.
Scott Raab will be on the Ken Carman show weekly every Friday at 9 PM
Talking about not talking about Brian Hoyer and his signing
Which team should win a championship if you had a choice?
Losing in 2007 and a hated Red Sox team in 2007
Cleveland fans and the amount of palpable hate for a fanbase that’s never won
If the Indians put up a statue in center field it ought to be Steve Olin
Is Jacob’s field a pitcher’s ballpark?
You have to get down to the seventh or eighth hitter to find a slow player
The contrived nature of the save in baseball
Chris Perez = Joe Borowski with a six pack in him
Julio Franco and the obsession with the holes in his game
Chris Perez talked about the organization and not just the fans
How much of the credit goes to Terry Francona?
Writing and how important it is to work with a good editor
David Granger and how important a good editor is for writers
Do novel writers have to have adversarial relationships with themselves?
The disadvantages of blogging are the lack of working it over and over
Balancing speed and quality / length
Guys who cover the NFL and how they feel about the Browns P.R.
The Browns and their adversarial relationship with the media
Chuck Klosterman whining about lack of access
It’s to Tony Grossi’s credit that Art Modell isn’t in the Hall of Fame
Access in the NFL is tightly tightly controlled
It’s better to be out there and not saying a lot than not out there at all
Talking about hockey with @NHLinCLE
The Cleveland Barons and Freddy Glover
Hockey fans and how they’re a different breed than the other sports
My wife made a brief and reluctant experience on the podcast to give her take. We did spoiler free talk for the first 10 minutes, so feel free to listen away whether you saw the movie or not.
Star Trek Into Darkness
Watching Wrath of Khan?
My wife makes an appearance on the podcast
Should the movie have aped the catalog so much?
Rebooting the series and whether or not they’ll make a third one
Did anyone need to really need that guy to be Khan?
Just how perfect the effects are and how it allows movies to get back to characters
A car alarm goes off in Brian’s background
Who will the next group of writers be?
Being super-entertained by an XD movie and whether or not we should micro-analyze
Movies vs. films and the multiple tiers of summer movies
Christopher Nolan and how much to trust him as a producer
Kirk and whether he’s supposed to be smart or dumb like impression
Other show notes:
An author from the Bay Area named Eric Simons (pronounced SIMMONS I screwed up!) wrote a book about sports fans and their psychology. Naturally, desiring a unique subject to study, he scoured the Internet and came across WFNY's own resident head case TD. Eric's book is called The Secret Lives of Sports Fans and it attempts to answer a lot of questions about how sports fans are the way they are. There's some science and plenty of interesting stories including some about TD. I talked to him about his book and other topics for a bit.
Why do sports make me feel so angry all the time?
The physical reflexes we get when we actually watch sports
Mirror neurons in the motor cortex
MMA and why we dodge punches while watching a sport
There are a lot of different ways to like sports
Cleveland is a really good case study for sports fans anchoring to local teams
People’s brains get confused about who the action is happening to
Expectations and what it does to your brain
Is this going to feel like a science book?
Getting a word in edgewise with TD
Really happy to get Pat McManamon on the podcast. I wanted to talk to him about Fanhouse and how the media landscape has changed both for him and also around him over the years. We also had some good conversation about the Browns, Chuck Klosterman and Twitter.
AOL Fanhouse and what it was like to work there
Working virtually with coworkers and editors on Fanhouse
Talking to people on the phone and how much richer that communication is
Fox Sports Ohio and the STO purchase
Reporting on the Pilot Flying J story and how to cover it
Sticking to the facts as opposed to writing lots of opinions
Jimmy Haslam’s controversy and how much to report on it
The Browns and transparency with the media
Chuck Klosterman’s piece on the Browns 2013 NFL Draft night
Should the Browns have traded picks or not?
Do the Browns know why their secrets are secrets?
Open practice vs. closing it 15 minutes after it started